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1. scope1968
   Member

   Can anyone offer me helpful tips or hints regarding editing in dictate AFTER you dictate a large amount of copy? I am having the hardest time doing that, and end up just cutting and pasting to a word doc, and then editing by keyboard. Should I just edit as I go along instead? Thanks!

   Posted 8 months ago #

2. CWJ
   Member

   You are absolutely right, editing is a big pain. The golden rule seems to get in the way when you start to edit your draft. Using vocal commands to perform the editing may come easy after a certain amount of experience but I haven't reached that level of experience yet. I find that using MSD for capturing the bulk of my thoughts is the practical way to get started. After I reach the point where I need to edit, I use the keyboard. Editing is easier in DNS then MSD.

   Once your editing is completed, you can return to using MSD to fill in text and add sections to your edited bits.

   Posted 7 months ago #

3. wolfram
   Member

   Is it not possible to select the paragraph and say "cache selection" or just say "cache document"? Afterwards, you should be able to specify single words for correction.

   Alternatively, you could edit the text manually, and then say "cache selction"/"cache document" and proceed as normal.

   The downside of this approach is that MSD will not improve by learning from your way of speaking and writing. So at least initially it may be a good idea to edit the text in the recognition window which will allow MSD to learn as much as possible. Later you can switch to whatever means is the fastest/most convenient.

   Posted 7 months ago #

4. marzzz
   Member

   Wolfram has a point that MSD will never learn how you dictate unless you make corrections within MSD. At first this was pretty tedious, as both me and MSD had to work a learning curve and my productivity suffered greatly, but now I am finding that MSD is beginning to "get me" and doesn't repeat the same mistakes- it just takes some time. Learning the "cache" commands is important, because you can then quickly select and train words by voice, which actually becomes quicker- even if MSD gets something wrong, with enough practice it will at least offer the correct alternative in the recognition window.

   Posted 7 months ago #

5. CWM1
   Member

   I don't know. . . I find that Dictate works well for me right out of the box. That is, I've created a new profile on several occasions and recognition accuracy is always very high immediately (i'd guess 97 percent ) . . . BUT: Dictate only works well for me in Text Edit and Dictate's Notepad. I get all sorts of errors when I use it in other applications.

   Posted 7 months ago #

6. pdbecht
   Member

   I'm having trouble editing also. Select and say works erratically. Phrase training is dicey. And trying to edit an entire page is impossible. I am very discouraged. So discouraged as to consider returning to Dragon

   Posted 6 months ago #

7. Donkeyoatay
   Member

   Marzzz. Would you please be kind enough to enlarge on what you mean by....

   "Learning the "cache" commands is important, because you can then quickly select and train words by voice, which actually becomes quicker- even if MSD gets something wrong, with enough practice it will at least offer the correct alternative in the recognition window".

   Many thanks,

   Michael.

   Posted 6 months ago #

8. marzzz
   Member

   Michael-

   Since I work with templates in MSWord Mac, I found that caching the document frequently made it much easier to make corrections in MSWord with fewer crashes. I have also noticed that as I keep making corrections, MSD first starts to offer the correct version as an alternative in the Recognition Window, then eventually begins transcribing correctly.

   Posted 6 months ago #

9. Donkeyoatay
   Member

   Thank you Marzzz for your reply.

   Michael.

   Posted 6 months ago #

10. MoonWalker
    Member

    Guys, you might want to check out the following article I found in the knowledge base. Commands with descriptions! :)

    http://www.macspeech.com/extensions/faq/kb.php?article=289

    Cache Document and Cache Selection are described along with Purge Cache which starts you off like have you just opened Dictate (no memory of prior dictation text).

    Also, check out the commands Insert After the Words and Insert Before the Words which allows you to insert the cursor before or after a word or phrase. This makes editing easier (especially if you have the word showing up multiple times throughout the document). Since Dictate will naturally select the closest iteration of the word/phrase that you would want to select for editing, it is a great idea to use the Insert Before/After the Word(s) command to get your cursor closer to the correct iteration so you don't end up selecting a duplicate/alternative word/phrase.

    Posted 6 months ago #

11. mrb55
    Member

    Where can I get some information about "cache a selection" editing? How do you edit a cached selection? How is it different than regular editing? Can it be used in applications other than Microsoft Word or text edit?
    Thanks, Mark

    Posted 6 months ago #

12. abledoc
    Member

    I assume you have read the MSD manual?
    Edit text same as text edit, I used Mail, 100% accurate.
    MS word can be problematic because of multiple formatting issues.

    And the command is "cache selection"

    My system: MacOS 10.6.2; MBPro 15 processor 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB 667 MHz; MacSpeech Dictate: 1.5.8 build 6797

    Posted 5 months ago #

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